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Post by nitrox on Aug 7, 2015 4:27:16 GMT
Well, currently we don't have any kind of notification messages for cards getting sent from the top of deck to the bottom. So Secret Clocktower and other similar cards can be quite easily used for cheating, for example if I look at the top 3 cards, send one to hand and keep the other 2 on top, or send both to bottom.
Can a notification for moving cards like that be added?
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Post by Mighty on Aug 7, 2015 15:04:01 GMT
Exactly. I cast Positron into Door of Miracle. I can easily cheat without the other knowing.
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Post by Light on Aug 7, 2015 16:32:45 GMT
I don't see an option to send cards to bottom of deck directly when i look at top X cards. I can send them to bottom without showing the opponent which one by setting the card as shield and moving it to bottom from there.
Do you think I should add a sidehand to the game?
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Post by nitrox on Aug 7, 2015 16:40:45 GMT
Ah. We were directly dragging them to the bottom of deck. Shields should be ok, I think.
But yeah no way to add notification?
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Post by Light on Aug 7, 2015 16:51:21 GMT
I'm not sure how you managed to drag to bottom of deck. The only possible way is by moving through battlezone.
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Post by nitrox on Aug 7, 2015 16:54:14 GMT
Huh, if you look at > X cards then drag cards from that window to bottom of deck it works. Doesn't show, but works.
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Post by Mighty on Aug 7, 2015 16:59:24 GMT
I cast Positron, look at top 4 cards, a window opens. I choose My spell, move it to battle/grave. Now the rest of the 3 spells, I drag to the bottom from the window. When no cards remain in the window, I close it. A message is shown which reads, Mighty has stopped looking at top 1 cards of his deck. (Yes, 1, not 4). Now opponenet has no idea if I dragged them to the bottom or on the top, so yeah. Easily cheatable.
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Post by zerovash on Aug 7, 2015 17:18:35 GMT
Adding a side hand is convoluted. Might as well propose a fix on Octgn's move to bottom function.
Either that or we just use the honor code to believe each other. (Or do Light's solution)
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Post by Light on Aug 7, 2015 19:02:22 GMT
Ok here's the thing. If you look at X cards it will notify "Player looks at top X cards". If you drag Y cards to bottom of deck, then close the window it will notify "Player stops looking at top (X-Y) cards". It doesn't matter how many cards you moved to field or hand, those will not be subtracted, only those moved to bottom of deck will. Therefore it is always possible to know how many cards opponent dragged to bottom of deck from the ones he was looking at.
Technically we should always be moving to bottom of deck from shields only. (Until we have sufficiently automated these cards)
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Post by Mighty on Aug 7, 2015 19:13:18 GMT
Actually it will subtract even if you move to the top, I think. So shields seem the only viable option.
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Post by nitrox on Aug 8, 2015 4:12:24 GMT
Actually it will subtract even if you move to the top, I think. So shields seem the only viable option. Yeah shields are much less confusing. Cast positron, look at top 4, take one out, set other 3 as shields and drag them to bottom. |
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Post by nitrox on Jul 6, 2019 9:18:06 GMT
Well I kinda fixed it. Notifications now show.
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