Post by Phoenix on Jul 5, 2015 23:44:03 GMT
I thought it would be cool for people to share some memories with each other I'll start
This here was a history post I wrote on the forums back "in my prime" as the big bad boss of everything.
Also, here's a picture of the people in #duelzone right before I got owner(~).
And here's how staff were organized back when I used fancy diagrams:
Here we have my post after my conversation with Sama/Gavnel:
The stuff above this is a quote, so please don't get confused
This here was a history post I wrote on the forums back "in my prime" as the big bad boss of everything.
This story starts in 2005. I was in year 13 of school, I had finally convinced Dad to get a computer. The internet was a new thing to me, so I liked doing random google searches and checking out what came up. One day a couple of my friends were talking about their MSN convo from last night. I asked what MSN is, ...stuff goes here..., then had Windows Messenger 4.7 installed on the computer. To use this, I needed an email address . When Dad got the internet, he got emails for myself and himself as well. The email addresses had our real names in them...well, anyway, for a while I was *#inspire.net.nz (email address not verified) on Windows Messenger 4.7. I was advised to get MSN Messenger, so I did. My friends told me to get a hotmail account, which at the time I thought people got because they're popular. My nickname is Bender, so I went to hotmail.com to get an email with bender in it. Closest I got was bender_54. I still don't know why, but I ended up going to msn.com next time, so I registered bender_54@msn.com. Now I was set up. ack then I'd have about 8 MSN convos open at a time...pretty frantic
Eventually, I googled for Duel Masters and found the official forums. It was there I met zagannknightofdarkness, necrodragonzaraze and many other people. I registered as bender_54. I got sick of the nickname quickly, so I asked if it could be changed. The answer was no. At the time, I liked The Winged Dragon of Ra and Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon (looks cool, crap card) from YGO, so I created a new account called Shining Phoenix. Soon after joining, I was invited to a forum called DM Legends where I also posted for some time. At DM Legends I met supadragon (casper) and some more people. I asked for mod there but didn't get it. Later, I got asked if I wanted to be a mod on a new forum, Clan EVic. I wasn't sure if I was ready, so I said no. After a few days I changed my mind, so I got a staff position created for me :3 DM Legends died, so now I was Shining Phoenix on the official forums and Clan EVic. On Clan EVic I met Asilyth (I can't remember his WotC name).
Now I was the "Activity Moderator" on Clan EVic and active on the official forums. From when I registered as bender_54 on the official forums to when I got #duelzone (See Part 4 - Rebirth), the main thing I posted about in forums was Create-a-card. I made cards, critiqued other people's cards, and generally chatted about Duel Masters. demonslayer(?) and necrodragonzaraze on the official forums formed a card-creating team, The Empire of Perfection. I joined, but wasn't as enthusiastic as necrodragonzaraze. demonslayer had recognised patterns in the costing of cards and posted about this, so we used these patterns and any we cuould work out to decide whether a created card is broken or not. necrodragonzaraze was a bit over-the-top, which lead to the EOP having confrontations with other people, e.g. Urth, on the forums. Eventually WizO_Kansha locked some threads and posted that sticky about board "groups". I just continued doing my thing afterwards.
Meanwhile, Asilyth, the admin of Clan EVic at the time, started becoming less active. Without its Admin keeping things moving, Clan EVic was slowing down. Since he was pretty much gone, I asked Asilyth if he could do something about it. He asked if I wanted to be admin, so I accepted and got it. This was where I first learnt about administrating forums. I liked creating/changing/deleting boards and sub-boards a lot. One day Kisara joined, later she talked about the skins on the forums and suggested it needs new ones, so I made Kisara and Duketsu the Graphics Moderators, they could do stuff with skins and moderate the graphics board. Sometime before I met these two, I met Def (Winzet). He posted a lot. Clan EVic was alive, I was admin and learning stuff.
The forum had been decreasing in activity since not long after it was formed, before I got admin, partially due to a dispute between two staff members that caused one to leave. I knew that something needed to be done. Anthony wanted to run an online tournament, so I made him in charge of tournaments and let him do his thing. This was going to be an online double dueling tournament (somehow). Grunt, mYgu, Rusty, Athos, someone who's on my MSN came from DuelZone to join Clan EVic as well to participate in the double dueling tournament. Grunt made #clanevic on the server #duelzone was on back then and made a webpage for connecting to it. So I connected to #clanevic each day, Grunt and Kisara were there too. After a while Grunt managed to persuade me to join #duelzone, so I started going there regularly too. Sometime before or after that he made me my own webpage which autojoins me into channels and autoidentifies me I started joining several channels on the old server, and loved #duelzone. It was full of crazy random conversation, with wild topic changes. Some people I remember from #duelzone then are Rusty, Cloud, Haseo, Crias, April, Morph3us and Orphen. You needed to be quick to have any clue of what was being talked about. I loved it. In #duelzone, we found out about Crias and Sama's new website, ccgdungeon.com
Activity on Clan Evic fell away, so we attempted to revive it with a double duel (i.e. 2v2) tournament.
The problem: For a double duel to happen, you need all 4 participants online at the same time.
Not a single double-duel managed to happen. The last ditch effort didn't work, so I knew that CLan EVic was dead. It was either before or after the double-dueling tourney failed that Scipizoa came to Clan EVic. She wanted to help the site, so I gave her boards and moderator to do CotD and a deck garage. There wasn't enough activity, so she left. I made Anthony the forum admin and left. Applications for moderator on the ccgdungeon forums were open, so I applied. I talked to Sama on MSN, and he told me I'd be a mod - awesome! I knew mod on ccgd > admin on CE. But I never got mod...no-one who applied did. After creating the big cool website, forums and first few articles and CotD, no more progress was made. Sama did nothing. Everyone was pissed that all progress had stopped, and no-one who was told they would get mod got it. I was no longer a staff member of anything worth beng staff of, and ccgdungeon.com had just froze. I was told I'd get mod and didn't get it.
When I first joined #duelzone, Crias was founder. Later Joe became founder, and then not long after that itchn4trbl was the founder of #duelzone. itchn4trbl started coming to #duelzone less and less...eventually he had been gone for quite a while. I thought it was a bit crap that the channel's founder was hardly ever there. I'd met quite a few people in #duelzone by now. So...I was that guy who:
- Was admin of one of the most active remaining DM forums until it died as a DM forum
- Was told I'd get mod on ccgdungeon forums but that didn't happen
- Couldn't get DMC to work on his computer
- Got along with the ops
- Complained about itchn4trbl's absence
So I started trying to rally people against Sama, because he didn't do his job. One day, I talked in private to Rusty and Joe about all this. We agreed that something needed to be done. I then asked Nazgul to make me successor of #duelzone. Thing is, I didn't notice I got +q when I joined just then =P I asked if there was anyone else who should get op. Scipizoa said her, so I made Scipizoa an op. She was strict. Scipizoa's focus was that people must be kicked if they break a written rule, and not if they don't. So of course people would find ways to get around the rules to be annoying. I had the impression that ops just kicked people for being annoying, so that plus Scipizoa's influence = I wrote more rules to cover everything annoying. That was a lot of kciks and bans each day. When itchn4trbl came back, while I was gone, he saw he was demoted to +h and left. He didn't reply to any of my emails.
Scipizoa told me that Hydro was abusing his IRCop powers, and told me we should move #duelzone to another server. I moved #duelzone to irc.whitelighter.com (aka wlcentral.netstable.net - no longer exists). Almost none of the commands I used often worked, because NetStable has no BotServ. I realised I wasn't ready to move, so I brought #duelzone back to the old server. Hydro, the owner of the old server, didn't like this. He gave #duelzone until November 5 to move out. I started connecting to both the old server and NetStable using mIRC, so I could get used to the new server. I asked the ops to familiarise themselves with it too. After over a month, I moved #duelzone to NetStable again. The channel usually had up to 5 clients in it. Jason made DZbot for me to replace two functions of BotServ, eventaully I decided one of them was crap, so DZbot became what it is today.
I talked to Hydro, and eventually ascertained that Scipizoa had played me. I thought that she lied to me to make me move #duelzone to NetStable so that she would become an IRCop there, because Charmed said that he would give IRCop to people who brought others to the network. That was a low time for me.
#duelzone needed a website. I asked people what they thought the domain name should be, which didn't really get anywhere. I wanted a free site preferably. Grunt built www.duelzone.z1.ro. The hosting was shit. Eventually Nathan, who used to work with Crias and Sama on ccgdungeon.com, helped me register duelzone.org and buy the hosting for it. Grunt built the website based on the old duelzone.net.
When Scipizoa finally became an IRCop, she was a localop on covert.netstable.net, an SSL-only server that isn't around anymore. Sometime back here I met Nazca and got along with him well Eventually a few more people were coming to #duelzone, and Scipizoa wasn't any good as an IRCop. Charmed decided to ask me to choose 2 people to be the IRCops from #duelzone. I chose Grunt and myself. Scipizoa got fired. I wrote a lot of stuff on how to do commands and use services on the NetStable wiki. Jason said that if I was a localop long enough without annoying anyone, I'd get globalop. Yates liked to see what I was learning by doing the stuff in the wiki, and Fudge liked my enthusiasm too. So I got promoted to globalop. After a while of me being globalop and Grunt being localop, Grunt resigned (Nothing bad happened, he jus didn't want to be an IRCop here). Charmed made basket his CoAdmin, and made EmmaWatson a localop. EmmaWatson did nothing but idle, so he was fired. Charmed then made Master his localop.
Bricker then linked village.netstable.net and asked for people to apply to be opers on his server. I applied, and later he asked if I'd like to be his CoAdmin. I said yes. Master became the globalop on Charmed's server, and also became a services operator. I asked Yates why Master was a services op and I wasn't, so he decided to make me a services op too. After some stuff happened, Bricker left and took village with him. Sometime during this paragraph or the above one I met Burner. Burner liked DuelZone and wanted to help, so he helped a lot.
Yates decided that NetStable should have another client server, so he set up deathstar.netstable.net and made me its server admin. Yates taught me various basics for installing and running an ircd on a *nix server. I need to choose some opers, so I asked Master if he wanted to be my CoAdmin, Burner and Joe if they wanted to be IRCops too. Joe wasn't online a hell of a lot, which was needed for me to teach him how to IRCop, so we agreed not to have him as a localop anymore. Somewhere during this paragraph is when Grunt decided that DuelZone wasn't worth the effort, so he stopped coding DMC, building the website, etc.
Burner was super active doing lots of useful stuff, and he'd finally finished my oper training course, so I promoted him to globalop. Sometime later, he randomly stopped coming here. Almost a month later, Burner came back and told us that he was gone because he couldn't pay his internet bill, and that he'd be back in a few days. He didn't come back, I don't know why.
I had appointed Master as my CoAdmin because he was enthusiastic and appeared to know what he's doing, he did get services op after all. A while ago we had some incidents where I fired and rehired him a few times, eventaully it was worked out that Master isn't as experienced as I was led to think. I rehired him as a normal globalop now, and probably will make him my CoAdmin again in future, now that's he's learning how it's really done
So...what do I do online nowadays?
DuelZone
- decide what gets done, by whom and how
- post quite a bit
- work on the rules and stuff for chat
- op #duelzone
- wonder how to reduce the number of boards on the forums
NetStable
- discuss network policies and issues
- whine when stuff is broken
- manage the IRCops assigned to me
Unreal IRCd
- make feature suggestions
- discuss other people bugs, tweaks and feature suggestions
Official forums and Pojo forums
- Post in general and Q&A
XeroCreative
- Trainee helpdesk staff - help people, usually with registration issues
I do mIRC scripting on and off too.
After reading this article, you'll hopefully know me a bit better
EDIT: Added a link.
EDIT: Removed negative comments about another person.
EDIT: I resigned from HelpDesk, I decided that I have enough to do.
Eventually, I googled for Duel Masters and found the official forums. It was there I met zagannknightofdarkness, necrodragonzaraze and many other people. I registered as bender_54. I got sick of the nickname quickly, so I asked if it could be changed. The answer was no. At the time, I liked The Winged Dragon of Ra and Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon (looks cool, crap card) from YGO, so I created a new account called Shining Phoenix. Soon after joining, I was invited to a forum called DM Legends where I also posted for some time. At DM Legends I met supadragon (casper) and some more people. I asked for mod there but didn't get it. Later, I got asked if I wanted to be a mod on a new forum, Clan EVic. I wasn't sure if I was ready, so I said no. After a few days I changed my mind, so I got a staff position created for me :3 DM Legends died, so now I was Shining Phoenix on the official forums and Clan EVic. On Clan EVic I met Asilyth (I can't remember his WotC name).
Now I was the "Activity Moderator" on Clan EVic and active on the official forums. From when I registered as bender_54 on the official forums to when I got #duelzone (See Part 4 - Rebirth), the main thing I posted about in forums was Create-a-card. I made cards, critiqued other people's cards, and generally chatted about Duel Masters. demonslayer(?) and necrodragonzaraze on the official forums formed a card-creating team, The Empire of Perfection. I joined, but wasn't as enthusiastic as necrodragonzaraze. demonslayer had recognised patterns in the costing of cards and posted about this, so we used these patterns and any we cuould work out to decide whether a created card is broken or not. necrodragonzaraze was a bit over-the-top, which lead to the EOP having confrontations with other people, e.g. Urth, on the forums. Eventually WizO_Kansha locked some threads and posted that sticky about board "groups". I just continued doing my thing afterwards.
Meanwhile, Asilyth, the admin of Clan EVic at the time, started becoming less active. Without its Admin keeping things moving, Clan EVic was slowing down. Since he was pretty much gone, I asked Asilyth if he could do something about it. He asked if I wanted to be admin, so I accepted and got it. This was where I first learnt about administrating forums. I liked creating/changing/deleting boards and sub-boards a lot. One day Kisara joined, later she talked about the skins on the forums and suggested it needs new ones, so I made Kisara and Duketsu the Graphics Moderators, they could do stuff with skins and moderate the graphics board. Sometime before I met these two, I met Def (Winzet). He posted a lot. Clan EVic was alive, I was admin and learning stuff.
The forum had been decreasing in activity since not long after it was formed, before I got admin, partially due to a dispute between two staff members that caused one to leave. I knew that something needed to be done. Anthony wanted to run an online tournament, so I made him in charge of tournaments and let him do his thing. This was going to be an online double dueling tournament (somehow). Grunt, mYgu, Rusty, Athos, someone who's on my MSN came from DuelZone to join Clan EVic as well to participate in the double dueling tournament. Grunt made #clanevic on the server #duelzone was on back then and made a webpage for connecting to it. So I connected to #clanevic each day, Grunt and Kisara were there too. After a while Grunt managed to persuade me to join #duelzone, so I started going there regularly too. Sometime before or after that he made me my own webpage which autojoins me into channels and autoidentifies me I started joining several channels on the old server, and loved #duelzone. It was full of crazy random conversation, with wild topic changes. Some people I remember from #duelzone then are Rusty, Cloud, Haseo, Crias, April, Morph3us and Orphen. You needed to be quick to have any clue of what was being talked about. I loved it. In #duelzone, we found out about Crias and Sama's new website, ccgdungeon.com
Activity on Clan Evic fell away, so we attempted to revive it with a double duel (i.e. 2v2) tournament.
The problem: For a double duel to happen, you need all 4 participants online at the same time.
Not a single double-duel managed to happen. The last ditch effort didn't work, so I knew that CLan EVic was dead. It was either before or after the double-dueling tourney failed that Scipizoa came to Clan EVic. She wanted to help the site, so I gave her boards and moderator to do CotD and a deck garage. There wasn't enough activity, so she left. I made Anthony the forum admin and left. Applications for moderator on the ccgdungeon forums were open, so I applied. I talked to Sama on MSN, and he told me I'd be a mod - awesome! I knew mod on ccgd > admin on CE. But I never got mod...no-one who applied did. After creating the big cool website, forums and first few articles and CotD, no more progress was made. Sama did nothing. Everyone was pissed that all progress had stopped, and no-one who was told they would get mod got it. I was no longer a staff member of anything worth beng staff of, and ccgdungeon.com had just froze. I was told I'd get mod and didn't get it.
When I first joined #duelzone, Crias was founder. Later Joe became founder, and then not long after that itchn4trbl was the founder of #duelzone. itchn4trbl started coming to #duelzone less and less...eventually he had been gone for quite a while. I thought it was a bit crap that the channel's founder was hardly ever there. I'd met quite a few people in #duelzone by now. So...I was that guy who:
- Was admin of one of the most active remaining DM forums until it died as a DM forum
- Was told I'd get mod on ccgdungeon forums but that didn't happen
- Couldn't get DMC to work on his computer
- Got along with the ops
- Complained about itchn4trbl's absence
So I started trying to rally people against Sama, because he didn't do his job. One day, I talked in private to Rusty and Joe about all this. We agreed that something needed to be done. I then asked Nazgul to make me successor of #duelzone. Thing is, I didn't notice I got +q when I joined just then =P I asked if there was anyone else who should get op. Scipizoa said her, so I made Scipizoa an op. She was strict. Scipizoa's focus was that people must be kicked if they break a written rule, and not if they don't. So of course people would find ways to get around the rules to be annoying. I had the impression that ops just kicked people for being annoying, so that plus Scipizoa's influence = I wrote more rules to cover everything annoying. That was a lot of kciks and bans each day. When itchn4trbl came back, while I was gone, he saw he was demoted to +h and left. He didn't reply to any of my emails.
Scipizoa told me that Hydro was abusing his IRCop powers, and told me we should move #duelzone to another server. I moved #duelzone to irc.whitelighter.com (aka wlcentral.netstable.net - no longer exists). Almost none of the commands I used often worked, because NetStable has no BotServ. I realised I wasn't ready to move, so I brought #duelzone back to the old server. Hydro, the owner of the old server, didn't like this. He gave #duelzone until November 5 to move out. I started connecting to both the old server and NetStable using mIRC, so I could get used to the new server. I asked the ops to familiarise themselves with it too. After over a month, I moved #duelzone to NetStable again. The channel usually had up to 5 clients in it. Jason made DZbot for me to replace two functions of BotServ, eventaully I decided one of them was crap, so DZbot became what it is today.
I talked to Hydro, and eventually ascertained that Scipizoa had played me. I thought that she lied to me to make me move #duelzone to NetStable so that she would become an IRCop there, because Charmed said that he would give IRCop to people who brought others to the network. That was a low time for me.
#duelzone needed a website. I asked people what they thought the domain name should be, which didn't really get anywhere. I wanted a free site preferably. Grunt built www.duelzone.z1.ro. The hosting was shit. Eventually Nathan, who used to work with Crias and Sama on ccgdungeon.com, helped me register duelzone.org and buy the hosting for it. Grunt built the website based on the old duelzone.net.
When Scipizoa finally became an IRCop, she was a localop on covert.netstable.net, an SSL-only server that isn't around anymore. Sometime back here I met Nazca and got along with him well Eventually a few more people were coming to #duelzone, and Scipizoa wasn't any good as an IRCop. Charmed decided to ask me to choose 2 people to be the IRCops from #duelzone. I chose Grunt and myself. Scipizoa got fired. I wrote a lot of stuff on how to do commands and use services on the NetStable wiki. Jason said that if I was a localop long enough without annoying anyone, I'd get globalop. Yates liked to see what I was learning by doing the stuff in the wiki, and Fudge liked my enthusiasm too. So I got promoted to globalop. After a while of me being globalop and Grunt being localop, Grunt resigned (Nothing bad happened, he jus didn't want to be an IRCop here). Charmed made basket his CoAdmin, and made EmmaWatson a localop. EmmaWatson did nothing but idle, so he was fired. Charmed then made Master his localop.
Bricker then linked village.netstable.net and asked for people to apply to be opers on his server. I applied, and later he asked if I'd like to be his CoAdmin. I said yes. Master became the globalop on Charmed's server, and also became a services operator. I asked Yates why Master was a services op and I wasn't, so he decided to make me a services op too. After some stuff happened, Bricker left and took village with him. Sometime during this paragraph or the above one I met Burner. Burner liked DuelZone and wanted to help, so he helped a lot.
Yates decided that NetStable should have another client server, so he set up deathstar.netstable.net and made me its server admin. Yates taught me various basics for installing and running an ircd on a *nix server. I need to choose some opers, so I asked Master if he wanted to be my CoAdmin, Burner and Joe if they wanted to be IRCops too. Joe wasn't online a hell of a lot, which was needed for me to teach him how to IRCop, so we agreed not to have him as a localop anymore. Somewhere during this paragraph is when Grunt decided that DuelZone wasn't worth the effort, so he stopped coding DMC, building the website, etc.
Burner was super active doing lots of useful stuff, and he'd finally finished my oper training course, so I promoted him to globalop. Sometime later, he randomly stopped coming here. Almost a month later, Burner came back and told us that he was gone because he couldn't pay his internet bill, and that he'd be back in a few days. He didn't come back, I don't know why.
I had appointed Master as my CoAdmin because he was enthusiastic and appeared to know what he's doing, he did get services op after all. A while ago we had some incidents where I fired and rehired him a few times, eventaully it was worked out that Master isn't as experienced as I was led to think. I rehired him as a normal globalop now, and probably will make him my CoAdmin again in future, now that's he's learning how it's really done
So...what do I do online nowadays?
DuelZone
- decide what gets done, by whom and how
- post quite a bit
- work on the rules and stuff for chat
- op #duelzone
- wonder how to reduce the number of boards on the forums
NetStable
- discuss network policies and issues
- whine when stuff is broken
- manage the IRCops assigned to me
Unreal IRCd
- make feature suggestions
- discuss other people bugs, tweaks and feature suggestions
Official forums and Pojo forums
- Post in general and Q&A
XeroCreative
- Trainee helpdesk staff - help people, usually with registration issues
I do mIRC scripting on and off too.
After reading this article, you'll hopefully know me a bit better
EDIT: Added a link.
EDIT: Removed negative comments about another person.
EDIT: I resigned from HelpDesk, I decided that I have enough to do.
Also, here's a picture of the people in #duelzone right before I got owner(~).
And here's how staff were organized back when I used fancy diagrams:
Here we have my post after my conversation with Sama/Gavnel:
Post on CCGD
MSN Conversation:
Sama won't get off his but, so I'm rebuilding DuelZone.
I am working on getting a domain name (hopefully duelzone.net) for the DuelZone homepage. Setever has offered to do the forums, Grunt has the template of the old homepage. The chat has been and will be where it is. I'm working on contacting all the programmers to see if one of them can work on DMC 2.1 or recommend someone. If you have a suggestion, tell me now. I am listening.
Think you can do a better job? you take the site, ill provide you with a years worth ov free hosting. To be honest i kinda gave up on this place after a discussion with crias who also happens to be the largest hypocrite i know. This was about 4 weeks ago.
Contact me if you want this place.
Contact me if you want this place.
MSN Conversation:
I Learned From The Best says (5:30 a.m.):
u want it?
Nick says (5:30 a.m.):
huh?
I Learned From The Best says (5:30 a.m.):
ccgd
Nick says (5:31 a.m.):
Nick says (5:31 a.m.):
If there isn't a less extreme option, yes.
I Learned From The Best says (5:32 a.m.):
theres not im giving it away
Nick says (5:33 a.m.):
k, I'll take it
Nick says (5:38 a.m.):
Is there a password you need to tell me?
u want it?
Nick says (5:30 a.m.):
huh?
I Learned From The Best says (5:30 a.m.):
ccgd
Nick says (5:31 a.m.):
Nick says (5:31 a.m.):
If there isn't a less extreme option, yes.
I Learned From The Best says (5:32 a.m.):
theres not im giving it away
Nick says (5:33 a.m.):
k, I'll take it
Nick says (5:38 a.m.):
Is there a password you need to tell me?
Sama won't get off his but, so I'm rebuilding DuelZone.
I am working on getting a domain name (hopefully duelzone.net) for the DuelZone homepage. Setever has offered to do the forums, Grunt has the template of the old homepage. The chat has been and will be where it is. I'm working on contacting all the programmers to see if one of them can work on DMC 2.1 or recommend someone. If you have a suggestion, tell me now. I am listening.